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2006.01.22 14:05

Those who rule the Internet rule the world.
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Not quite...(Score:2)
by Farmer Tim (530755) <roundfile@mindl[ ].com ['ess' in gap]> on 2006.01.22 21:01 (#14535685) (Last Journal: 2005.05.01 22:12)
There has never before been an empire that can be switched off.
--The difficulties nerds have with the world stem from the fact that not all problems can be solved by nerdery.
Re:Not quite...(Score:1)
by JorgeDeLaCancha (913036) on 2006.01.23 0:48 (#14536696) (Last Journal: 2006.01.23 0:59)
For now at least. I personally see it as the internet becomes more important to vital infastructure in different countries, *cough*USA*cough, more redundancy will possibly be put in place if the government deems it necesarry. Also @mercedo: Have you read The World Is Flat by Friedman? link [amazon.com]
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Re:Not quite...(Score:1)
by mercedo (822671) * on 2006.01.23 8:10 (#14538287) (http://mercedo-comments.blogspot.com/ Last Journal: 2006.02.24 14:13)
No. I had a quite coverage of reading classics, I don't know who he is. I try browsing his book. I will respond after I read it.
As to my assertion, whoever say whatever I think the importance of the Internet will increase more and more. You see we are communicating through this tiny window to the world. This fact amaze me a lot.
You know why we say 'The Internet'? I know it's a silly question to native speakers. We put 'the' in front of the only one thing. The Earth, the moon, the Sun. The Internet is only one, so who rules the Internet really counts for all.
--Ancient Greek Philosophers -18c Enlightenment Thinkers -Slashdotters[ Parent ]
Re:Not quite...(Score:1)
by JorgeDeLaCancha (913036) on 2006.01.25 0:53 (#14554954) (Last Journal: 2006.01.23 0:59)
From what I have read of the book, it deals with globilization and how the world is going to become an equall playing field for everyone with an education. For example, some doctors send their X-Rays to be read by other Doctors overnight in India, thank you Internet.
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Re:Not quite...(Score:1)
by mercedo (822671) * on 2006.01.23 7:50 (#14538203) (http://mercedo-comments.blogspot.com/ Last Journal: 2006.02.24 14:13)
That's right. Probably if I say Those who rule the Internet rule the world, it is a little bit exaggarated or hyperbolic, illusory or imaginary, hypothetical but, partly true. Probably I would be able to say replaceably that Those who rule the Internet will also rule many important entities like finance, politics, academy, communication, information as well so naturally they will rule the world.
We are certainly not sure what will come after the possible downfall of the Internet, though, at that time the Internet will also change its nature as we see now.
--Ancient Greek Philosophers -18c Enlightenment Thinkers -Slashdotters[ Parent ]
Re:Not quite...(Score:2)
by Farmer Tim (530755) <roundfile@mindl[ ].com ['ess' in gap]> on 2006.01.23 16:02 (#14542901) (Last Journal: 2005.05.01 22:12)
Actually, I think you're right; those who rule the world now already rule the internet. Governments have the power to legislate and monitor their citizens, and major telecommunications companies have the power to disconnect entire countries. I don't see this situation changing without a major redistribution of wealth, but this goes against the current trends.I don't think the internet will collapse unless technological society does (the net was designed to survive a nuclear war, after all). It will continue to evolve, though, and will be as different to today in 25 years as it was 25 years ago; Slashdot is a world away from the 80-column green monitor I was staring at back then. I'm waiting with interest.
--The difficulties nerds have with the world stem from the fact that not all problems can be solved by nerdery.[ Parent ]
Re:Not quite...(Score:1)
by hzs202 (932886) on 2006.01.23 16:35 (#14543251) (http://uranus.dontexist.com/ Last Journal: 2006.02.21 10:26)
I'll go one step further..."Those who can hack the Internet rule the world" (H. Singhji).
--hzs202[ Parent ]
Re:Not quite...(Score:2)
by Farmer Tim (530755) <roundfile@mindl[ ].com ['ess' in gap]> on 2006.01.23 18:47 (#14544421) (Last Journal: 2005.05.01 22:12)
Not the world, just selected little corners, and then only until they're discovered; you can't rule in a hit-and-run fashion, but you can be very, very annoying. Which is fortunate, because I fear this may eventually become democracy's only hope.But I could be wrong, in which case let me be the first to welcome our Russian porn-spamming overlords ;)
--The difficulties nerds have with the world stem from the fact that not all problems can be solved by nerdery.[ Parent ]
Re:Not quite...(Score:1)
by hzs202 (932886) on 2006.01.23 23:08 (#14545994) (http://uranus.dontexist.com/ Last Journal: 2006.02.21 10:26)
Oh... I don't mean "hack" in the sense of script kiddies and malicious code floating endlessly on gnutella! Oh no... I'm talking about real hacking, the kind that develops integrated systems with a pretty Java front-end and scalable oracle back-end. ATM's will be obsolete before I die, and you can quote me.
--hzs202[ Parent ]
Re:Not quite...(Score:2)
by Farmer Tim (530755) <roundfile@mindl[ ].com ['ess' in gap]> on 2006.01.24 0:23 (#14546308) (Last Journal: 2005.05.01 22:12)
I see. I don't know...don't those coders work for other, better paid people (when their jobs aren't being off-shored)? I mean, their work will be essential, but I have no reason to believe they'll be in any greater position of power than, say, garbage men (who are shown very little respect, considering they are the first line of disease prevention in society). That might sound harsh, but its just the nature of the labor market.I think you're probably right about ATMs; chances are we will be the last generation to use cash on a regular basis, though I imagine governments will keep some of the old fashioned life-support tokens ready for emergencies like earthquakes, floods, or the need to quickly depart to the Cocos Islands.
--The difficulties nerds have with the world stem from the fact that not all problems can be solved by nerdery.[ Parent ]
Re:Not quite...(Score:1)
by hzs202 (932886) on 2006.01.24 11:20 (#14548854) (http://uranus.dontexist.com/ Last Journal: 2006.02.21 10:26)
I mean, their work will be essential, but I have no reason to believe they'll be in any greater position of power than, say, garbage men (who are shown very little respect, considering they are the first line of disease prevention in society).No you are right... infact some schools at NYU restructuring. What does all of this mean? Well it has been said in not so many words that programmers however essential come in droves. By next semester there will be a new Information Systems program and it will focus networking (security, programming, managment, etc.)instead of apps dev. Apparently, the market is over-saturated... so where exactly does that leave a 3 year college student concentrating on application development? I don't know... and frankly I becoming a little nervous.
--hzs202[ Parent ]