The Role Of University
The Role Of University
2006.02.03 13:42
You learn in the university what you cannot learn in the society.
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Then again...(Score:1)
by eglamkowski (631706) <eglamkowski@ange ... inus threevowels> on 2006.02.03 14:14 (#14636772) (http://www.angelfire.com/nj/eglamkowski Last Journal: 2006.02.23 9:18)
most of what you REALLY need to know can't be learned, but is the result of experience.
--Government IS the problem.
Re:Then again...(Score:1)
by mercedo (822671) * on 2006.02.03 14:22 (#14636878) (http://mercedo-comments.blogspot.com/ Last Journal: 2006.02.24 14:13)
In the society we learn how to sell water in desert, while in the university we learn how to buy water in desert.
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Re:Then again...(Score:1)
by mercedo (822671) * on 2006.02.04 10:38 (#14641698) (http://mercedo-comments.blogspot.com/ Last Journal: 2006.02.24 14:13)
I like concise expression like this, but I add the explanation.
In the desert where water is scarce, people are generally eager to get water, so naturally they tend to spend much money just for water. Water will be sold much more expensive in the desert than other areas. So all we have to do in a society is to try to sell water in the desert as much as we can so that we can make a lot of money. This is what we have to learn from the society.
On the other hands, it is not a easy task for us to acquire knowledge in a university. It needs endurance, endeavour, perseverance, patience, constant effort. It is something like we try to get water in the desert. But only those who can get water from the desert are eligible to give it to people in the desert. That was not just sell &buy relations in it. We need benevolence in it in the first place. Money comes afterwards, it is merely a result of good will.
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Re:Then again...(Score:1)
by hzs202 (932886) on 2006.02.03 22:37 (#14639934) (http://uranus.dontexist.com/ Last Journal: 2006.02.21 10:26)
most of what you REALLY need to know can't be learned, but is the result of experience.That may be true... however, if it is true it's because we often don't know how to utilize what the University experience is offering. I recently began college in my mid twenties with a wife, child and one on the way... my life experience is much more than the average undergrad and for me college is a very enlightening experience. Particulary in the areas of fundamental self-expression.For example, college has helped me with developing a complete thought, analyzing it, removing the unecessary and offering it for discourse without expectation. This is very useful stuff... but you would have to know where and how to use it. And believe me... I am a half-indian/persian half african-american male married to an *angry* black woman; this is very useful stuff!
--hzs202[ Parent ]
Re:Then again...(Score:1)
by eglamkowski (631706) <eglamkowski@ange ... inus threevowels> on 2006.02.06 8:17 (#14650019) (http://www.angelfire.com/nj/eglamkowski Last Journal: 2006.02.23 9:18)
I've seen it too, that people who didn't go to college directly after high school, but do eventually go, are VASTLY better prepared to actually LEARN what the university has to teach. Those who go directly after high school just because it's expected of them are rarely ready to truly learn.For that reason alone it seems to me we ought to stop forcing the expectation of everybody needs to go to college. Just let people go when they are ready to go. A few years of real-world work (low wage work, for lack of advanced education) usually does the trick...
--Government IS the problem.[ Parent ]
Re:Then again...(Score:1)
by hzs202 (932886) on 2006.02.06 14:15 (#14653016) (http://uranus.dontexist.com/ Last Journal: 2006.02.21 10:26)
A few years of real-world work (low wage work, for lack of advanced education) usually does the trick...LOL! I couldn't have said it better myself.Cheers... :)
--hzs202[ Parent ]
Re:Then again...(Score:1)
by mercedo (822671) * on 2006.02.04 10:13 (#14641604) (http://mercedo-comments.blogspot.com/ Last Journal: 2006.02.24 14:13)
Let me start with my personal experience in the university. I never had a part time job in my school days. Even just one time, never. If I were asked what I was doing, I can't help but reply that I was studying and reading a book and writing a thesis, that was all what I was doing.
But my case is very different from the case of other students. Many students had a part-time job, and enjoying their holidays with their intimate friend. Some student naturally started to have a romantic relationship with their boy or girl friends. I didn't believe any of them were studying hard. Only those who wanted to go to the graduate school or study abroad were eager to study in the university. Me? Throughout 4 years of my school days, I only studied, did nothing other than study. So I learned the world through a book first. In fact my life kept on like this till age 30.
I guess your opinion forms a majority of our society. But if we were in the university, I recommend young people that they'd better spend hours in their study and not outside the study. Then after they graduated from the university, they ought to start learning from experience in a society. That's my point.
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